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Nanoprotech Electric Waterproofing

Discussion in 'General Eskate Chat' started by pokiebumwanke, Dec 9, 2016.

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  1. pokiebumwanke

    pokiebumwanke Member

    I've been getting a lot of scared feed back on FB and Reddit when it comes to riding on wet roads or just using Nanoprotech. It works great! I have the inside of my remote covered in the stuff. That worked out and it still works great. I also have soaked the inside of the water bucket on my BGT. That also has had no change since sprayed. My bad, it has changed. It's waterproof now!!
     
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  2. LuckyCharms

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    Awesome to hear this. Did you have to do anything like cover up the receiver and transmitter before you sprayed? witecy stated on one of the posts that it might affect the signal if you sprayed that part too .

     
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    pokiebumwanke

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    I sprayed everything that wasn't already covered with something and then some. I f'in soaked that ****! I also talked to the pro electric guys at my wife's work first. (Flex Enclosure Sweden) I've been riding it. What more can I say. Just sit at home when it's wet out if you don't trust it.Been wet here for over a month now. o_O
     
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    pokiebumwanke

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    If this is the picture on the front of the can. It better freakin work!

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  5. LuckyCharms

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    This is what I have. have not used it yet. My CGT arrives on Tuesday.

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    pokiebumwanke

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    Same stuff and you're lucky. You can read the can. :p Your board is also more waterproof than my BGT also, I did not spray it on the motors! If water effected the motors, ma board would already be ******.
     
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  7. LuckyCharms

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    Sweet. On the day that I get it, I will test the board to make she if it works first. After which I will then make it bullet proof by applying 3m clear bra to both top and bottom, balance all 4 AT wheels if they need it, apply a closed cell foam gasket to seal dirt from the compartment underneath the deck lid, and lastly spray the electronics with nano protech. Will check the tension on the belts to make sure that they are as even as possible also.
     
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    pokiebumwanke

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    :)
     
  9. Alex

    Alex Admin

    That sounds pretty darn thorough LuckyCharms, hope it works!
     
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  10. LuckyCharms

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    Me too
     
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  11. wiztecy

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  12. LuckyCharms

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    Agreed. I don't look at it as a guarantee. More of a precautionary measure. This is a preventative step for those times when the weather report says nothing but sunshine and halfway through your ride our pours.

     
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  13. wiztecy

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    Cool, glad you have an experimental mind. You never know how it'll turn out... It does however seem to repel splashes pretty good, so if you keep up with the spray coating every once in a while its a good precautionary measure for sure. Just keep in mind to do a small test area where you really can't see it before you do your whole board or whatever you do. Some of these products can do some damage to the finish since you really don't know what they're made of and the companies can't test every finish.

    Seems pretty cool, let us know the first time you get water on it. You should also do a test with some small electronic device you don't care about and splash some water all over that to see how it holds up.
     
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  14. LuckyCharms

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    Good advice. I was planning on taking the circuits out of the board and then spraying it in a plastic container or sorts. While the spray stuff was drying I would then apply the 3m clear bra to the deck. This would keep the spray from touching the clear coat finish.

     
  15. wiztecy

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    Also stay away from spraying the antenna, such as in the bluetooth antenna. You can seriously detune them and they'll never work the same. Anything that gets on them will reducing its ability to transmit and receive.
     
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  16. LuckyCharms

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    I remember you saying that in other posts. It sounds like the op drowned the circuits for both controller and board with no ill effects. Can someone point out where on the circuit boards the antenna are located?

     
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    pokiebumwanke

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    I would like to know where it is also and I should have made a video out of the project.
     
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    pokiebumwanke

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    I can stand 9 meters away from my BGT and it will connect and go.
     
  19. wiztecy

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    Right, he either got lucky or his transmitter / receiver was strong enough to overcome the reduction. Here's some quick sources on how coatings and material covering and surrounding an antenna directly affects the tuning:

    Effects of encasing bluetooth chip and rechargeable battery in an adhesive encapsulate?

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  20. wiztecy

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    However here's a company who makes headsets by me who use the waterproof spray for their headsets. Thing is I'm sure they tune the antenna after they spray the coating in order to get it right:

    Waterproof protection

    So if you don't have any RF measuring equipment you're just going in with a blind eye and hoping things will work, you may get lucky, you may not.

    If the spray has a low dielectric constant, the RF loss will be minimal. There's still a loss because there's something coating the antenna! So possibly the nano is has a low dielectric constant, but nobody knows this constant so you're in the dark and taking a blind risk unless there are values attached to this.

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    Dielectric Constant
    The dielectric constant is the ratio of the permittivity of a substance to the permittivity of free space.

    The permittivity of a material is the ability of a material to store electrical energy in an electric field.

    Low dielectric constant conformal coatings ensure minimal energy loss in RF signals. They are ideal for for high-speed and high frequency electronics.

    High dielectric constant conformal coatings may cause excessive energy loss in RF signals.
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    Electrical properties – Nexus
     
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